Tahir-ul-Qadri is celebrating Christmas

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Tahir-ul-Qadri is celebrating Christmas


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[Virdan]

i think unho nay yeh isi nuqta nazar say kaha hay k Charistmis Hazrat Isa (A.S) ki birhday per manai jati hay to is aitbaar say as a muslim no doubt woh hamaray liyay b khushi he ka din hay k Allah Tala k bhejay huway ik Rasool aaiy thay.Doctor sahib ISLAM ki kafi knowledge rakhnay walay logon mien say hain. beharhaal her koi apnay amaal ka khud zummadar hota hay aur care kerni chahyay as a muslim hamein. Allah Tala hamien sahe samjhnay ki tofeeq dein. Amin

[Zain Dar]

Agree with virdan

[Farhan Ansari]

in my point of view it is wrong due to many reasons
1. It is religious event of cristians
2. 25th Dec. is not the birthday of Hazrat Esa (A.S)
3. Islam does not incourage to celeberate birthdate of any person, not all muslims celeberate Eid-Miladun-Nabi.
4. Islam discorage the resemblence of Jews and Cristians, for example Fasting of Ashura(10th Moharram) is also in Jews but we muslims Fasting for two days 9th and 10th or 10th and 11th, due to not resemble with jews.

there are so many arguments but i think its totaly wrong to follow any relegion's day.

[Shahrukh Khan]

Originally Posted by Virdan

i think unho nay yeh isi nuqta nazar say kaha hay k Charistmis Hazrat Isa (A.S) ki birhday per manai jati hay to is aitbaar say as a muslim no doubt woh hamaray liyay b khushi he ka din hay k Allah Tala k bhejay huway ik Rasool aaiy thay.Doctor sahib ISLAM ki kafi knowledge rakhnay walay logon mien say hain. beharhaal her koi apnay amaal ka khud zummadar hota hay aur care kerni chahyay as a muslim hamein. Allah Tala hamien sahe samjhnay ki tofeeq dein. Amin

Hazrat ISA (A.S) ki birthday 25th dec ko nahi hoti...yeh doctor saab ko nahi pata aur aap keh rahey ho-->Doctor sahib ISLAM ki kafi knowledge rakhnay walay logon mien say hain

[Shahrukh Khan]

doctor saab church main bhi jatay hain

[Virdan]

Chrach mein janay ka maqsad achha hona chhayay to church mien jana koi bura nahe hay bhai.

Woh mien nay apni kam ilmi say kaha hay k 25 ko birthday hay. Wesay aap bata saktay hain k Hazrat Isa (A.S) ki birthday kaya hay. Yeh meray ilm mien azafa ka sabab hoga aur Allah Tala aap ko is ka ajar dein gay.

[Virdan]

Originally Posted by Farhan Ansari

in my point of view it is wrong due to many reasons
1. It is religious event of cristians
2. 25th Dec. is not the birthday of Hazrat Esa (A.S)
3. Islam does not incourage to celeberate birthdate of any person, not all muslims celeberate Eid-Miladun-Nabi.
4. Islam discorage the resemblence of Jews and Cristians, for example Fasting of Ashura(10th Moharram) is also in Jews but we muslims Fasting for two days 9th and 10th or 10th and 11th, due to not resemble with jews.

there are so many arguments but i think its totaly wrong to follow any relegion's day.

Charch mien to Hazrat Muhammad (S.A.W) b gaiy aur janay ka nuqta nazar ISLAM ko phelana ka tha aur kuchh nahe, is mojoda dor mien hamein non muslims ko yahi batanay ki zaroorat hay k Islam sab say peaceful Mazhab hay aur kisi k sath jabar ka qail nahe hay.

Aaqa e Do Aalam (S.A.W) nay to Christen ko Masjad e Nabvi mein apni abadat tak ki ajazat day di thi. Mera kehnay ka matlab yeh nahe k ab hum b unhein ajazat day dein balkeh matlab yeh hay k unhein batana maqsood tha k ISLAM is the BEST in all ways. sab say zayda khayal kernay wala.

And Very Sorry to say Farhaan mera nahe khayal k HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (S.A.W) ki birthday say barh ker dunya mien koi khushi ki baat hay na he EID aur na he Ramzan aur na he koi aur din. Sirf yeh sochein k EID zayda khushi ka tehwaar hay ya Un KI BIRTHDAY jin ki waja say EID mili.

Mujay kisi k nazriyaat per tanqeed nahe kerna mien apnay nazriya ki baat ker raha hon. Agar to Doctor Sahib is nazriyay say gaiy hain k ISLAM ko peaceful show karein aur Islam ka asli image show karein to ITS REALLY GREAT. I LOVE IT. but agar un ka nuqta e nazar sirf wah wah hay to ITS SHAMEFUL.

Hamara masla yeh hay k hum tanqeed pehlay kertay aur tameer baad mein. Baghair haqeeqat janay to insan ko tanqeed say guraiz kerna chahyay. Nahe to Doctor Sahib say rabta ker k pocha ja sakta hay k woh kis nuqta e nazar say gaiy.

Agar mein Wrong hon to Allah Tala mujay Maaf farmaain. Allah Tala mujay, aap ko, sab ko Samjhnay ki tofeeq dein aur hum sab muslims per apni Rehmat farmaain. Aamin

[Farhan Ansari]

And Very Sorry to say Farhaan mera nahe khayal k HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (S.A.W) ki birthday say barh ker dunya mien koi khushi ki baat hay na he EID aur na he Ramzan aur na he koi aur din. Sirf yeh sochein k EID zayda khushi ka tehwaar hay ya Un KI BIRTHDAY jin ki waja say EID mili.

Dekhen ye Shariyat ka mamla hey, kon se event ko as a tehwar manana hey kon se event ko nahi ye hum decide nahi karsakte ye Allah or us k Rasool SAW he decide kersakte hein, Ager Eid-Milan-dun-Nabi SAW ko as a EID manana hota to Allah or us k Rasool SAW khud iss ko nafiz kerte ya Sahaba R.A Zaroor manate.

Anyway mein is controvecy mein nahi jana chahata ye koi bohot bara ikhtilaf nahi hey k iss ko bohot ziyada discuss kia jaye.

[Zain Dar]

mere khayal mein hum sab se ziyada ilam Dr sahib k pass hai
hum eik 2 books per ker on k baraber ilam hasil ker nahi sakte
Dr sahib ka main student rah choke hoon wo wohi baat kerte hain jis ki islaam mein ghunjaish hoti hai
jesay wo khod ko suni kehlwatay hain lakin azan se pahle darood shareef nahi pertay on k idaray ki masjid mein kyun k wo kahte hain k azan se pahle koi cheez hai he nahi is lia sunee b on k khilaaf hain
lakin maine on ko bohat qareeb raha hoon
khalaf e shareeiyat wo koi kaam nahi kertay aur na kabhi karain gay
INSHALLAH

[Shahrukh Khan]

Originally Posted by Zain Dar

mere khayal mein hum sab se ziyada ilam Dr sahib k pass hai
hum eik 2 books per ker on k baraber ilam hasil ker nahi sakte
Dr sahib ka main student rah choke hoon wo wohi baat kerte hain jis ki islaam mein ghunjaish hoti hai
jesay wo khod ko suni kehlwatay hain lakin azan se pahle darood shareef nahi pertay on k idaray ki masjid mein kyun k wo kahte hain k azan se pahle koi cheez hai he nahi is lia sunee b on k khilaaf hain
lakin maine on ko bohat qareeb raha hoon
khalaf e shareeiyat wo koi kaam nahi kertay aur na kabhi karain gay
INSHALLAH

kahan likha hai key muslims christmas day mana saktey hain aur es din HAZRAT ESA ki wiladat hoti hai???

[Virdan]

Originally Posted by Farhan Ansari

Dekhen ye Shariyat ka mamla hey, kon se event ko as a tehwar manana hey kon se event ko nahi ye hum decide nahi karsakte ye Allah or us k Rasool SAW he decide kersakte hein, Ager Eid-Milan-dun-Nabi SAW ko as a EID manana hota to Allah or us k Rasool SAW khud iss ko nafiz kerte ya Sahaba R.A Zaroor manate.

Anyway mein is controvecy mein nahi jana chahata ye koi bohot bara ikhtilaf nahi hey k iss ko bohot ziyada discuss kia jaye.

Bhai jee aap say kis nay kaha k SAHABA IKRAAM (R.A) is din ko nahe manatay thay. Mananay ka taluq sirf bhangray dalnay say nahe din ki nisbat say amal say hay. Aap kindly mujay koi proof dein k jis say yeh show ho k SAHABA IKRAAM is din ko nahe manatay thay aur khas khushi ka izhaar khas ways mein nahe kertay thay.

No doubt mein b is baat say agree hon k is mein behas wali koi baat he nahe hay. i m confirm about that. her banday ka apna aqeeda hota hay. Sorry if i hurt u.

[Farhan Ansari]

Waq mila virdan bhai to mein aap ko iss ki detail bhej doon ga just for sake of your knowledge not for arguments. Aap jis cheez ko sahi samajhte hein iss per amal karain.
Mere pass aik article tha about 25th Dec. and Christmas wo kaheen delete ho gaya hay mein net se search ker k is forum per doon ga.

ok, iss discussion ko hum yahin close kerte hein. no harsh feeling

Allah SWT hum sub ko sahi deen per chalne ki tofeeq dey
Ameen

[Virdan]

Yahan per jo b behas hoti hay bhai woh hum sab sirf apni toseeh aur ilm ko ik dosray say share kernay k liyay he kertay hain, HAQ ko jan.nay k liyay jo behas ki jati hay us mien jo sahe ho usay dugna aur jo ghalt ho usay 1 guna sawab milta hay.

Aap ko jab b time milay mujay zaroor woh send keejiyay ga but yeh zaroor kahon ga k mustanid hawalon sya warna INTERNET per log firqa waraniyat ko phelanay k liyay b phela detay hon jo baat mustanid nahe hotay, kyon k mustanid wohi ho gi jis ki daleel mustanid ho gi.

Allah Tala hum sab ko sahee bat samjhnay aur us per amal kernay ki tofeeq dein. Aamin.

Mein aap say sorry b kerna chahta hon agar kahein per b mein nay aap ki dil azaari ki ho to mein sharminda hon mujay maaf ker deejiyay ga.

[Farhan Ansari]

Ary VIRDAN Bhai iss tarha na sochian, meri koi dil azari nahi hoi, bal k mujhe to achcha laga k app ne mujh sey disscuss kia or apna point of view bataya. is tarha ki discussion to hoti reheni chahiye kabhi kabhi.

Aap MOLANA YOUSUF LUDHANVI Sahib ki kitab IKHTILAF-E-UMMAT OR SIRAT-E-MUSTAQEEM parhlen uss mein EID-Miladun-nabi k bare mein detail mojood hay.